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	<title>Comments on: How to Set Your Hourly Consulting Rate</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Thompson</title>
		<link>http://30sleeps.com/blog/2007/09/27/set-your-hourly-rate/comment-page-2/#comment-35656</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition, billable time keeps you in constant feedback mode with the customer. As long as you are delivering, the customer will be happy to pay. Fixed price means big design up front. In over ten years of software development I&#039;ve never worked with a customer who tells me exactly what they want up front and doesn&#039;t want to change things half way through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition, billable time keeps you in constant feedback mode with the customer. As long as you are delivering, the customer will be happy to pay. Fixed price means big design up front. In over ten years of software development I&#8217;ve never worked with a customer who tells me exactly what they want up front and doesn&#8217;t want to change things half way through.</p>
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		<title>By: David Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://30sleeps.com/blog/2007/09/27/set-your-hourly-rate/comment-page-2/#comment-34424</link>
		<dc:creator>David Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hourly rates are definitely the way to go in most cases.

&quot;The practice of billing for one’s time is unethical. Billing by the hour pits the consultant against the customer. Do you really want to be in an adversarial relationship with your customers?&quot;

Quite the opposite. Fixed prices create a more adversarial relationship. The customer will always argue that additional work was included in the original specification. And the contractor will have an incentive to do the quickest job that meets the precise terms of the specification, whether or not it will serve the customers needs.

I think you&#039;re erroneously assuming that the contractor&#039;s sole incentive is to get as much money from the customer for as little cost as possible. In that case, the customer may need to insist on a fixed rate for a specific set of requirements to prevent the jerkwad contractor from ripping him off. However, then the customer assumes the full risk that the specifications won&#039;t actually meet his needs and he&#039;ll pay for something he can&#039;t use.

I counter, that if you suck at what you do, insist on a fixed price for meeting written specifications. Then you are entitled to your full payment even if your work is utterly useless crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hourly rates are definitely the way to go in most cases.</p>
<p>&#8220;The practice of billing for one’s time is unethical. Billing by the hour pits the consultant against the customer. Do you really want to be in an adversarial relationship with your customers?&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite the opposite. Fixed prices create a more adversarial relationship. The customer will always argue that additional work was included in the original specification. And the contractor will have an incentive to do the quickest job that meets the precise terms of the specification, whether or not it will serve the customers needs.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re erroneously assuming that the contractor&#8217;s sole incentive is to get as much money from the customer for as little cost as possible. In that case, the customer may need to insist on a fixed rate for a specific set of requirements to prevent the jerkwad contractor from ripping him off. However, then the customer assumes the full risk that the specifications won&#8217;t actually meet his needs and he&#8217;ll pay for something he can&#8217;t use.</p>
<p>I counter, that if you suck at what you do, insist on a fixed price for meeting written specifications. Then you are entitled to your full payment even if your work is utterly useless crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zipursky</title>
		<link>http://30sleeps.com/blog/2007/09/27/set-your-hourly-rate/comment-page-2/#comment-33156</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zipursky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consultants should avoid hourly fees like the plague. They are generally a bad proposition for the client and consultant.

However, I do recommend that consultants have a grasp of what they should be earning per hour and per day so that they can plan income targets and know how much and when they can start to outsource work or bring on other employees.

I created an online consulting fees calculator to help with figuring that out here:

http://www.consulting-business.com/consulting-fees-calculator.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consultants should avoid hourly fees like the plague. They are generally a bad proposition for the client and consultant.</p>
<p>However, I do recommend that consultants have a grasp of what they should be earning per hour and per day so that they can plan income targets and know how much and when they can start to outsource work or bring on other employees.</p>
<p>I created an online consulting fees calculator to help with figuring that out here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.consulting-business.com/consulting-fees-calculator.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.consulting-business.com/consulting-fees-calculator.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
		<link>http://30sleeps.com/blog/2007/09/27/set-your-hourly-rate/comment-page-2/#comment-24846</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From experience at a previous employer, I could say that the company that used to do web development for us, would have promptly gone bankrupt if the had billed by the job or fixed rate.

It was simply embarrassing to see our upper management changing their minds on a daily basis on what they wanted done or nitpicking on minute details that no one but them would notice, but would cause huge amounts of time to implement.

Needless to say, their company made huge amounts of money on what could have been a simple project.

On the other hand, it used to tick me that they often sent apprentice developers to do the work, taking an unreasonable amount of time as they were basically on the job training or reinventing the wheel and billing hourly for it.

I guess it works both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From experience at a previous employer, I could say that the company that used to do web development for us, would have promptly gone bankrupt if the had billed by the job or fixed rate.</p>
<p>It was simply embarrassing to see our upper management changing their minds on a daily basis on what they wanted done or nitpicking on minute details that no one but them would notice, but would cause huge amounts of time to implement.</p>
<p>Needless to say, their company made huge amounts of money on what could have been a simple project.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it used to tick me that they often sent apprentice developers to do the work, taking an unreasonable amount of time as they were basically on the job training or reinventing the wheel and billing hourly for it.</p>
<p>I guess it works both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://30sleeps.com/blog/2007/09/27/set-your-hourly-rate/comment-page-2/#comment-19878</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 18:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that billing type really is determined by how many actors are involved.  If you are working on your own or in a well-known team, then a fixed rate might work if everyone involved understands their strengths and how to get the job done quickly so that you maximize your per hour time.

If, however, you&#039;re working in a customer space and deal with people who enjoy wasting your time, then hourly is the way to go.  This really boils down to how much control you have over your time and how much control your customer has over your time.

Either way, I&#039;m all for higher rates, as this will help drive the market up. :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that billing type really is determined by how many actors are involved.  If you are working on your own or in a well-known team, then a fixed rate might work if everyone involved understands their strengths and how to get the job done quickly so that you maximize your per hour time.</p>
<p>If, however, you&#8217;re working in a customer space and deal with people who enjoy wasting your time, then hourly is the way to go.  This really boils down to how much control you have over your time and how much control your customer has over your time.</p>
<p>Either way, I&#8217;m all for higher rates, as this will help drive the market up. :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://30sleeps.com/blog/2007/09/27/set-your-hourly-rate/comment-page-2/#comment-18076</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Sorry, but that is just ridiculous. I&#039;ve been an IT Consultant for the last 12 years. Hourly billing is the single best way to get paid properly for my skills. Fixed rates are great in some longer term situations, but for short term work, hourly is the only way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Sorry, but that is just ridiculous. I&#8217;ve been an IT Consultant for the last 12 years. Hourly billing is the single best way to get paid properly for my skills. Fixed rates are great in some longer term situations, but for short term work, hourly is the only way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: John Shaver</title>
		<link>http://30sleeps.com/blog/2007/09/27/set-your-hourly-rate/comment-page-2/#comment-17752</link>
		<dc:creator>John Shaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,

You couldn&#039;t be more wrong about billable time.  I know it has been quite some time since you wrote this article so I hope that you have made the move away from billable time and embraced fixed price contracts.

The practice of billing for one&#039;s time is unethical.  Billing by the hour pits the consultant against the customer.  Do you really want to be in an adversarial relationship with your customers?

I have a favorite quote from Ed Kless at Sage Software:  If you suck at what you do then bill for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>You couldn&#8217;t be more wrong about billable time.  I know it has been quite some time since you wrote this article so I hope that you have made the move away from billable time and embraced fixed price contracts.</p>
<p>The practice of billing for one&#8217;s time is unethical.  Billing by the hour pits the consultant against the customer.  Do you really want to be in an adversarial relationship with your customers?</p>
<p>I have a favorite quote from Ed Kless at Sage Software:  If you suck at what you do then bill for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime Bellmyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaime Bellmyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad - great article. I&#039;ve been doing this for a number of years, and this sums it up nicely. Your point about asking too little is well taken.  I actually wrote an article myself, warning clients about this:

http://kconrails.com/2010/01/15/there-are-no-cheap-ruby-on-rails-experts/

Also, I recently gave fixed bidding a try, and it burned me!  It took triple the time it was supposed to.  In the end, the client and I settled for 2x the original bid, but nobody was happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad &#8211; great article. I&#8217;ve been doing this for a number of years, and this sums it up nicely. Your point about asking too little is well taken.  I actually wrote an article myself, warning clients about this:</p>
<p><a href="http://kconrails.com/2010/01/15/there-are-no-cheap-ruby-on-rails-experts/" rel="nofollow">http://kconrails.com/2010/01/15/there-are-no-cheap-ruby-on-rails-experts/</a></p>
<p>Also, I recently gave fixed bidding a try, and it burned me!  It took triple the time it was supposed to.  In the end, the client and I settled for 2x the original bid, but nobody was happy.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.. I wish i&#039;d found this two months ago! I&#039;ve just finished my second web dev contract and ridiculously undercharged a fixed rate for both. I&#039;ll definitely be doing things differently from now on, but at the same time its been a great learning experience and a real lesson in what my time is worth. Thanks brad, Ive found so much great advice on this blog and im spreading the word. peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.. I wish i&#8217;d found this two months ago! I&#8217;ve just finished my second web dev contract and ridiculously undercharged a fixed rate for both. I&#8217;ll definitely be doing things differently from now on, but at the same time its been a great learning experience and a real lesson in what my time is worth. Thanks brad, Ive found so much great advice on this blog and im spreading the word. peace!</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://30sleeps.com/blog/2007/09/27/set-your-hourly-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-10250</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brad,
I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;ll get this, since the article is rather old.  It was a great set of tips! Thanks!
 
I&#039;m new to this and wondering what &quot;send out 10 CVs every day, and test different rates&quot; really means.  Are you saying you search the web for companies that *might* need a BA, and then send your VisualCV or resume to them with a quote of your basic rate?
Thanks!
Shannon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brad,<br />
I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;ll get this, since the article is rather old.  It was a great set of tips! Thanks!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m new to this and wondering what &#8220;send out 10 CVs every day, and test different rates&#8221; really means.  Are you saying you search the web for companies that *might* need a BA, and then send your VisualCV or resume to them with a quote of your basic rate?<br />
Thanks!<br />
Shannon</p>
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